“Those born during this period are drawn to darkness, the natural habitat of Scorpio energy, but the greatest among them understand that it is only through exploring those depths — with open eyes and a fearless heart — that self-knowledge can be found.” - NY Post
Drinking coffee and browsing through my notes. I find I am attracted to this quote related to those born with Neptune in Scorpio. So who are these people? Mostly those born in late 1956 through 1970, with a few exceptions.
The Neptune, Pisces, 12th House archetype correlates with the collective consciousness as well as the collective unconscious. Each and every person born on Earth at any time, regardless of what sign Neptune falls in at the time of their birth, is conditioned by both the collective consciousness and collective unconsciousness throughout the course of their lives.
Within each and every human being is an awareness of something much greater than can be accurately comprehended to the fullest extent or adequately explained. This is the “totality of all that is,” which is commonly referred to as God, Goddess, The Universe, The Source, in addition to many other names. There is a core desire within each one of us to know that which created us, which is the source of all things.
Should one want to take a deep dive into an individual’s birth chart in order to learn how he or she perceives this “source of all things,” in addition to how he or she is shaped by collective conscious and unconscious beliefs, one must first study the South Node of Neptune in the chart.
In addition to the moon, every planet has both a south and a north node. In the book The Planetary and Lunar Nodes, Dane Rudhyar points out that “The two nodes are not separate points, each with its individual meaning; they are the two polar aspects of one single process. What should be studied and understood is, first of all, the process.”
The South Node of Neptune is in Aquarius, while the North Node of Neptune is in Leo. This is the case for everyone living on Earth at this time.
According to Jeffrey Wolf Green in the book NEPTUNE: WHISPERS FROM ETERNITY, “The South Node of Neptune being in Aquarius for all humans on the planet today directly correlates with the time in which humans began to live in farming type communities, of when cosmologies were invented to explain the nature of phenomenal reality. The concept of ‘God’ began that progressively was defined by humans in all kinds of ways that had nothing to do with the ACTUAL Source Of All Things. So we can see by way of the South Node being in Aquarius how the collective conscious/unconsciousness from that time until now has affected the individual consciousness of each Soul by way of the various man-made religions and cosmologies that have defined ‘God’ in all the ways that it has been.”
Turning to the North Node in Leo, Green explains, “With the North Node of Neptune being in Leo for all Souls, we can see how the idea of ‘god,’ the creator, is at the heart of all of Creation: Leo. We can also see how each of these invented religions and gods is the ‘right’ one and all others wrong. We can now understand the root of all religions: “God created man in its own image.” We can now see how so many Souls use the language of God to justify that which they do: ‘In the name of God.’ And we can see, because of this, just how illusory this is, illusions that are considered to be ‘real.’ We can also see, however, how the core desire in all Souls to know that which has created them is also true. So the issue then becomes to inwardly KNOW the real and actual nature of what humans call God, and the true Source Of All Things, versus all the invented/projected religions, cosmologies, and ‘gods’ that have nothing to do with the true nature of the Creator and what It has created. And we can know which Souls actually represent in some way the actual nature of the natural truths, of the Natural Laws, and of the real and Natural Source Of All Things.”
Going back to the individual and his or her birth chart, we would start by looking at where the South Node of Neptune is placed by house, sign and aspect. In addition, we need to consider the ruler of the South Node of Neptune by house, sign and aspect. In the case of the South Node of Neptune in Aquarius, the ruler is Uranus. Combining all of this information will give us a good idea of what type of impact the collective unconscious has had on the individual over time. Note that within the Aquarius, Uranus, 11th House archetype is a desire to individuate. This desire manifests on both an individual and collective basis, in most cases via the collective unconscious.
Next we take note of Neptune by house, sign and aspect. This will show us the effect of the collective unconscious on the individual in the current life and how the individual will, in turn, impact the collective consciousness. Once we get past that, we look at the North Node of Neptune, and its ruler, the Sun, by house, sign and aspects in order to learn how the individual will actualize these desires and integrate past and current life spiritual desires going forward.
Putting this all together can be very rewarding, as well as enlightening, when doing your own chart. It is a good addition to one’s own “astro-journal,” if you will. The “reading” can be expanded upon over time as your understanding evolves. In relation to examples, this can be a huge project depending upon your skill set. An experienced astrologer may be able to do a reading in a reasonable amount of time, while the rest of us may require a lot more time. Trust me, I’ve been there and done that. For those who would like an example or two, let me refer you to this book sample: Neptune: Whispers From Eternity . Here you will find examples using Edgar Cayce by Cat, Carl Jung by Linda Jonson, Rachel Maddow by Kristin Fontana, and Mark Zuckerberg by “Skywalker.”
Back to Neptune in Scorpio. The Scorpio archetype has a deep desire to get to the bottom of things. Scorpio wants to know “Why”? Neptune in Scorpio wants to know why we were born, what are we here for, do we have a purpose, who or what created us, where did we come from, where do we go when we die, and so much more.
The Planetary Nodes of Neptune
Then here I go with the 3rd comment haha!
Seems this subject really triggered something in me :)
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"We can now understand the root of all religions: “God created man in its own image.” We can now see how so many Souls use the language of God to justify that which they do..."
Hm.....what's funny to me is that, in essence this is what I realised JWG was/is doing - because of his 'absolute' conviction/ belief that he 'got it right'. I first noticed this many years ago when he used the term within his readings 'this or that is what God wants you to do'. My inner alarm bell went off; he was sailing to dangerous waters with this kind of 'interpretation'. People may believe him that it's somehow the voice of 'the Natural Creator' - yet what if he is mistaken? Complete conviction with such confidence that dismiss any self questioning andy 'double checking the facts'. I didn't know then if he is or not mistaken - all I knew this was over the top and was neither OK nor fair. It was only his own percepiton - wrong or right that's all it was. Attributing it as 'god will' or 'message' put things in a different package especially for those already wounded and vulnerable; they wouldn't follow their own intuiton if it was different than what he said. For my heart at least, that was neither respecting people's sovereign will nor honoring their intuiton. It's a covert 'impositon' coupled with a covert judgment: if they don't do as he suggested, they are 'wrong' and even more going against 'god's will'.
That to me sounded similar to what the priestly 'caste' have done to people for millenia - just in a different dress. As much as I respected and trusted him at the beginning - in time the 'question marks' in me about his underlying drive started to add up. But I was questioning myself deeply and trying to figure out if I may misunderstood something or 'got it wrong' and didn't want to jump to conclusions. So it took me a while: but eventually came to the sad conclusion that it is correct what I noticed - so it isn't me who is 'mistaken' about certain issues. It actually caused a deep inner disillusionment and spiritual crisis which lasted for a while. For after this I felt I have to question absolutely everything I ever believed before. And so I did.
That was my own period of 'soul-searching' and going through my own 'dark night'. But it was necessary - in hindsight I am grateful for it. I needed that inner 'crash' to really dive into myself and find my own path. So deep within me I have no doub I had a 'soul-agreement' with him fr beyond the human level: he actually successfully taught me the lesson of never again trust anyone more than my own Soul, listen to my feelings, my intuition and my inner 'alarm bell'; no matter how difficult it may be; I need to find my own answers for myself. So I am grateful for the wisdom I gained eventually after going through the experienceson the Earth plane with him.
I bless him with love and wholeheartedly wish that he learns his own lessons with the least possible pain and suffering according to his own Soul-plan.
By the way, In my personal view: one of Neptune's actual correlation is our own (individual and collective) multidimensional nature - which is not conscious until we start to awaken and start to remember and embrace all that we are,; all we have been, seen and done in this Universe in all dimensions and 'realities'. Giving all that power away to some sort of a 'god' entity is indeed a huge feast for that entity - and of course it would do anything it can to keep this energy-flow going.
One of the best method is to confuse and delude the emotional body and the 'ego' structure of humans who are prone to this kind of 'role' i.e. playing the role of the 'messenger of god' which enlarges their 'spiritual ego'.
I also can't help but point out: the original text he is quoting is 'elohim' not 'god'. "Elohim' is plural! Has nothing to do with 'god' . But it does point to one of the secrets in our 'actual history' : the 'elohim' say in the original text: 'Let's make the Hu-man in to OUR image.' (plural again) Perhaps it doesn't mean they 'made' humans - rather it points out the first (or not even the first) genetic alteration of the original Earth Hu-mans? Making them to 'their image' perhaps means altering them genetically.
The proof is just a few pages away in the same text still existing today: the sons of the 'elohim' were able to mate with the female of teh Hu-mans. And they liked it. For lets just think about it:
how exactly were the 'elohim' able to mate with some of Earth women? Perhaps the genetic alteration allowed that?
But there is further proof: hybrids were born out of this inter-race mating, called the 'titans'. Then things got messy and their 'off world' leaders didn't like that and forbade further inter-mating.
'Elohim' simply means 'from out there' or 'from the sky'.
Similar stories can be found in native American tribal legacies as well as some African etc.
(The most frequent story line that I know from these tribes is something like: 'sky people' or 'star people' impregnating tribal women, (usually in their sleep) and when the baby is born the tribe knows the child belongs to the 'sky people'; it's with the mother only for a few years and then he or she is taken by the 'sky people' usually around the age of 5- 6.)
So, what's happening today is justs the last chapter of the 'interference' with our genetic material.
But we have a 'wild card' - and that's Neptune again in my view. Our immunity is connected to our multidimensional nature; all the aspects of us that exist simultaneously in other dimensions, realities, realms etc - as unconscious as we may be about it it is part of us and while our human self and 'traveling spirit' can be fooled and entrapped our Soul cannot be which is projecting all these aspects from 'beyond' according to a 'soul-plan' - so when the deception or genetic etc. physical interference goes too far and attempts to cross the soul-plan it will be nullified in some ways via the multidimensional 'thread'. For example the current attack on Humnity as horrible as it is actually it isn't as 'successful' as it was planned. Many aren't affected despite all the 'effort'; those who aren't supposed to die or be maimed from the jabs etc. will either not be affected or recover no matter how deluded they may have been on the human level and allowed themselves to be jabbed perhaps multiply times. I personlly happen to know some who experienced this: they recovered from very dire states. Now their human consciousness went through enourmous transformation and see the 'events' in a very different light than before. I can only assume the experience was a vital part of their 'awakening' process. Neptune works in 'mysterious' ways indeed - but in my view that has to do with our own incredible multidimensional Being, - not the entity mascarading in the 4th dimension as 'god'.
But I do respect that being too: on a higher level it is actually the best 'personal trainer' you see. How can we ever learn to see through convoluted spiritual deceptions, emotional and psychological mind-control programs, how can we stop being naive and ignorant unless we are trained really well in that area?
I didn't wish to go into the 'collective unconscious' etc. - I don't exactly agree with the terms. Nor do I agree with JWG - he completely misses the fact that Neptune s.node in Aq correlates to the traumas of the 'invasion' from 'outer space' - -- there is a lot to this subject.
We didn't start 'agriculture' out of our own will. It was actually the first step of breaking Universal Lore. (not law - that's the word of the 'gods' - lore is the Indigenous word to differentiate between the false laws of civilisation and the original lores of Nature and the Universe.)
Enslaving another living being was completely alien from natural Earth Humans. It means forcing our will onto them, telling them where and how to grow;; it's a complete violation. When we were lured this way - i.e. farming other livng beings either plants or animals - it actually means not allowing them to be how their own Soul, spirit and consciousness wants to be.
So the moment Humanity was forced and deceived to do this it meant they had to CHANGE their original belief system -- when they saw and perceived Earthmother and her Nature as divine and they communed wiwth it all. They asked for what they need and they were given -freely out of unconditional love. And now they all of a sudden 'gained' the right to force their will onto their spiritual brothers and sisters? Can you not see what this means?
The greates spiritual decepiton and domination begun --
Farming is assuming some sort of a 'right' to dominate and control other beings. Period.
This was the base of the greatest distortions which is culminating now -- the moment we participated in 'farming' others we automatically given 'permission' for the same to be done on to us.
So indeed, we hve been 'farmed' for a long long time - many many beings use our energy and literally 'harvest' and 'feed' on us. Far not just the Earth layer 'controllers' .
The 'g.o.d.' letters of course coincide with this -- the false 'gods' and then the 'god of the gods' are the very ones that invded us, forced and deceived us in endless ways, shaped our social and spiritual strucdtures for eons of time; with the help of their 'minions' (annunaki is one chapter atlantis is another etc. etc.) plus their 'lower' helpers or 'employees' that are the earth level 'controllers'.
Neptune n.node is Leo is the 'homecoming' symbol to me: when we realise and embrace once again that WE are the most powerful creator beings. Those others manipulate and stir us in order to use our creative powers to create the kind of reality that they want. Question is how long do we allow this and how and when do we 'remember' who we actually are.
We just needed to experience the opposite of everything - and volunteered to take on the 'veils of amnesia'. There are efforts to keep us under this veil -- it's up to us to individually and collectively awaken ourselves integrate all that we are and take back our powers with the enriched wisdom that we gained on the journey.
We too played all the roles that this Universe has to offer- thus at the end there are no victims. We allowed the distortion we allowed the invasion, we allowed what's going on right now: its a 'fuel' that in the bigger picture 'fastens' our evolution and awakening.
Having said that I'd also like to add: every 'trial' is real only if it has a possibility of failing.